YOUNG GUIDERS AROUND THE WORLD

U.S.A.

Last updated October 11, 1999

Compiled by Jennifer Walker, Edmonton AB 


Senior Girl Scouts

GS Santa Clara County Senior GS Information    (removed url due to nature of content)

GSCNC Arlington County Older Girl Roundtable

Campus Girl Scouts

National Convention 2000 being sponsored by William Paterson University CGS

Campus Girl Scouts on the GSUSA home page (updated)

Online CGS Directory (by State):

Archives of CAMPUSGS - Campus Girl Scouts mailing list

Campus GS Groups:

Where does CGS fit in?

Discussion about developing a handbook for CGS and the Online Handbook site



National Convention 2000

3 July 1999
In early June of 2000 the Campus Girl Scouts of William Paterson University in New Jersey will hopefully be hosting a National Campus Girl Scouts Convention, this has been attempted by other Universities in the past and we are using all of their information as a jumping ground. We have been in contact with National who came out to see our facilities and are now helping
us put everything together.

1 June 1999
What we are looking at as the main goals of the weekend would be to 1. get together all the crazy CGS's out there and 2. to prepare an information booklet about CGS and how to start it at other universities as a reference for any newcomers. What we figure is having it be 3 days long and cost no more than $75 with I think all but one meal included. We plan to have workshops on getting publicity for your group, how to attract new members, creative ideas for fundraising, programming ideas, and putting together a highlight booklet of things we have all done. We would also have a trip into NYC (since you can see it from our school) to see the National Headquarters, Maybe even meet the President of Scouting, and the option of seeing a Broadway show at a cost of no more than $25 additional. We also want to have a huge bonfire and time for swaps and stuff. The idea National wants to see happen is for us to have a speak-out about Scouting so they can see what are positive and negative things people have experienced over the years so they can learn more about the girl perspective.
--Dana Romatowski



American University
 website

19 September 1999 - AU CGS is getting a custom-made patch done for our event this year. I remember that last year some folks on here showed some interest when Geneseo posted theirs, so I put up ours. I'm technologically incompetent and
can't get the graphic into the email like they did last year, but I did manage to post the artwork to my web page. 

27 August 1999 - We're hosting our first event on November 13. Senior Girl Scouts will be coming to campus for "What the Tour Guide Forgot: Everything They DIDN'T Tell You About Going to College." We're also doing some outreach to other local schools, and (hopefully) two more CGS groups will be formed this fall, at George Washington U. and at Northern Virginia Community College.   Also, our council has agreed to help promote CGS in its regular Older Girl Newsletter. They're planning to have a small regular column, featuring a different group each month.  If you would like to have your CGS group included in this, please write up a paragraph or two on what your group has been doing (think different- think RECRUITMENT) and how
to contact you, then email it to here. I will forward them to the council.

25 Jan 1999
We just formed this year, and I don't think we're even recognized officially yet.  But we do plan to participate in the Thinking
Day Chat, and we're working on some events with the service unit. Basically, we provide backup service, another source of
"adults" for meetings/events, camping help, meeting programming, lifeguards, speakers, etc. for the troops in the area.  We've
only been functional for a couple of months, but so far the response has been phenomenal.
--Leanne Powner
 



Bradley University

22 September 1999
Bradley University Campus Girl Scouts are  currently designing our t-shirt for 1999. We wanted to see if any CGS groups from other schools wanted to purchase shirts.  Here is a description:  They would range from $10-15 (depednding on volume). They are red long-sleeved shirts with B.U.G.S on the back (block letters with lady bugs design) (Bradley University Girl Scouts) and then the front would have a trefoil and say Bradley University Campus Girl Scouts. The front stuff would be on the right side of the shirt so that you can wear your Girl Scout pins and not cover up the writing! If you are interested please reply here .We would have to charge a small shipping cost (about $2 or $3).
--Alissa Ulrich

01 Feb 99
Greetings from Peoria! At Bradley University, Campus Girl Scouts are keeping busy! With no time for recovery after holding our Older Girl Scavenger Hunt in December and door to door cookie sales in January, we are gearing up for our second annual International Thinking Day Fair. For the fair, older girl troops design a "booth" around the theme of a country with an activity approximately 15 minute in length. Brownie and Junior troops rotate around the booths in sessions so that everyone
is able to participate in all of the activities. Last year we had ten older girl troops design booths for 200 Brownie and Junior Scouts. This year the demand has sky-rocketed and we have 16 booths to accomodate approximately 500 Brownie and Junior Scouts. We are excited to be holding this event on campus this year. It is hard to go unnoticed when you have
500 Girl Scouts running around!
       We have many more events up and coming. We will be doing cookie booth sales in the Student Center in March, Brownie and Junior Outdoor Days in April, and a CGS campout in April at Camp Tapawingo. The activities and fun in CGS never seem to end!
--Lori Dietzel

21 Feb 1998
CGS at Bradley University in Peoria, Illinois, held an international Thinking Day fair today (this was our first event and it went really well)! We had Cadette and Senior troops design a booth for a country of their choice, and have either a skit, game, craft, or some type of food to share. Many of the booths chose to do a combination of these. We had Brownie and Junior troops rotate around the booths every ten minutes. Each Brownie and Junior had a passport (which served also as a nametag) to wear around their neck that got stamped at each country that they went to. Twenty-seven troops in total were involved, between the older girls who did the booths, and the younger girls who went around and did the activities. There was a lot of food, too, for the kids to sample, which was a big hit- Switzerland had fondue, Holland had spice bread, Mexico had salsa and tortilla chips, USA had cookies, and France had some sort of pastry. The kids got to color in Russia, dance in France, learn the Guide promise and make euchalyptus bookmarks in Australia, make textured flags in Switzerland, yarn dolls in Sweden, paper bells in Germany, bookmarks and origami cups in Japan, paper flowers and flags in Holland, more paper flowers in Mexico, and listen to a play in the USA. All in all it was a great event!
--Lori Dietzel


SUNY Geneseo
website

22 Feb 1998
This weekend was our lock-in for Senior Girl Scouts. Our theme was "A Healthier You". We had yoga, Mary Kay, did swing dancing, used computers with healthy websites, played games, had speakers from Health Guard and several other activities. The event went extremely well!
Our CGS group works with all different levels of girls. We're going to have a junior computer badge day and maybe a senior computer badge day. Our Brownie Try-It Day went extremely well and everyone had fun. We have a lot of fun working with all different levels, since it allows us to be creative and work on different kinds of projects.
--Anna MacDonald


University of Illinois

26 Jan 1998
Hi all from U of I CGS! As for things we have planned this year, we were planning on hosting a "Campus Invasion" weekend where we would bring seniors in GS onto campus for a weekend and showing them around, talking to sororities/frats, professors, taking tours, etc...except we had to cancel due to low enrolment. We are also in the planning stages of a regional CGS conference for the May of 1999 (any of you in the Illinois region-7 I think- should have gotten info about it already....if you haven't e-mail me) which should be really interesting. I think we're going to do a little sharing, a little competing, and a few sightseeing trips! I think that's pretty much it for now. We'll probably go camping and we're trying to get together with another CGS group in IL this semester.
--Paula Mihalko

17 Oct 1997
The way we get people to come and then come back is to offer activities that they're interested in -- we basically have a system that says, if you want to do it, then let's plan it! We make sure to broadcast that we do community service stuff (lots of people like that for resumes) and fun stuff too -- like movie nights, camping, doing things with younger girls (bowling, skating, even just going to a troop meeting). This year we have tons of new people and new ideas -- like exchanges with other CGS groups in the state. We're also going to get more involved with local troops on an individual basis, plus we thought it'd be really cool to first get to know the older troops, then the younger troops, then facilitate a gathering of the two age groups. For instance, we'd help a senior troop plan an event, and then go to a Brownie meeting, then get the senior troop to join us in helping out the younger kids. Does that make sense? It'a hard to explain! But we're always coming up with new stuff here at UIUC, so if your stumped for activities, just ask!!
--Nancy Shramek

30 Sept 1997
I am president of the Campus Girl Scouts at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. We know of tons of other CGS groups, in fact I have a listing of all the groups and contacts or them in the nation! If you're looking for a specific group, feel free to ask me... I don't have the list with me now but I have easy access to it. You can probably get a listing if you write national... My group here is in the beginning stages of planning a regional CGS Conference. We do have the support of national, and we will be sending out letters and surveys to the groups in our region to get feedback on our ideas -- we don't want to plan an event that no one wants to come to! The region includes Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, and Missouri for sure; there may be other states as well. ANybody who lives in those states who is a Campus Girl Scout I'd love to hear your ideas! --Nancy Shramek


Richard Stockton CGS

Our group is sponsoring a women's history month art contest, and hopefully some related badge workshops, and perhaps a speaker on the history of the scouting movement....we have trouble getting everyone together for meetings, so we work on an informal basis mostly by e-mail and small meetings for the people involved in a project.

--Kate Sontag


Aggie Girl Scouts (Texas A&M University)

22 Feb 1998
Our Brownie Girl's Night Out (Mom & Me) event that our CGS directed was held the weekend of the 7th... The girls and their moms began arriving around 9 am Saturday morning. We did not have any planned activities until 11:15, so for those early birds, we had two"on your own" activities -- "Just Ask Me" (a set of questions for mom and daughter to get to know each other better) and an Un-Nature Trail. At 11:15, we started with a song fest until the flag ceremony before lunch. Immediately following lunch we began the rotation of activities. The four activities the girls and their moms rotated through were as follows: 1) Fire safety / s'more making & hot chocolate, 2) Leather craft (they made keychains and necklaces), 3) Games -- we had a parachute, "Texas Skis", several balls, hulahoops, jumpropes and a ball of yarn -- they varied games with each group, and 4) Gods Eyes and Plaster of Paris Handprints. The way we did the handprints was we poured the plaster into a plastic "party plate" and after it was semi-dry (about 20 min. I believe) the moms stamped their hands into it ...then a little bit after that, the girls dipped their hands in red tempra paint and put their handprint inside their mom's .. it came out really cute.

Then after the 4 activities (45 minutes at each) we had a campwide scavenger hunt - we divided them into groups with about 6 girls. Then we gave them a 30 minute break before flag and dinner. After dinner we had our campfire, where the girls got to lead songs, and we led some too, and we taught them some of the A&M yells (one of the many A&M traditions). Around 8:30, half the girls were practically asleep, so that's where we let them go.

The next morning we had a late breakfast (8:30) and then a Scouts Own, then opened up the trading post. They then could leave anytime until 11, and once again we still had the unnature trail for them to try (we left it intact until right before we left). We only had 2 minor problems .. 1) moms who were upset about having to carry their gear to their tents, but that is the standard procedure and the council is planning to have some carts built for this purpose, 2) moms worried about the cold and not wanting to sleep in tents, so I moved into the lodges anyone who was uncomfortable with sleeping in the tents. That ended up only being about 20 people out of 80. Other than that, the evaluations were excellent, and we later received a handwritten note from our Council Executive Director congratulating us on the success of the event.

Several things I would do differently: 1) provide pens for the scavenger hunt, 2) label the tents with the names of who sleeps where (or with a number at least). And, we chose not to focus on any one try-it for the girls, rather they got a participation patch and on their schedule we listed what try - it requirements the activities they participated in would fulfill.
--Laura Ree

17 Nov 1997
Actually our campus GS is doing a lot - I am attaching the e-mail I just sent to everyone about our meeting last Thursday (we had fairly low attendance, but it was quite a productive meeting). Some of the different things we've been doing:
1) We've started up a Senior Shadow Program where senior GS can "shadow" a campus GS and find out what college is like 2) We are hosting a lock in this coming March for local Junior Girl Scouts.
3) We are directing a Brownie Mom & Me event at the council camp this coming February (this is coming up sooo soon!)
4) We are holding CPR training this weekend - one of our members is an instructor/trainer (she's gonna also train us to be CPR instructors too!)
5) We have been invited to attend a bridging / service project put on by a local Senior Troop.
6) We are planning to hold a fundraiser - Mock SAT or ACT at the high school. Kaplan testing services will provide us with all the materials, all we have to do is proctor it, and we get 100% profit - should be a good one.
7) We are having our picture taken for the yearbook (thanks to our advisor).

Laura Ree



William Paterson University

20 August 1999
In the fall we have a bunch of programs we are running for the Girl Scouts in our local area. We started doing some programming in the Spring of 1998 and since then we have become very popular program planners in our local area. We try to do programs to get the girls to come up to the campus and get them to think about college. For the younger girls we try to do activities that are things the leaders probably wouldn't have access to, like last year we ran a whole program about science and the kids made slime and stuff like that. We do about 1 program a month starting in September and only skipping December. The kids are always really cute and we have great bonds with a bunch of them who write us letters and stuff...its really cute.
--Dana Romatowski


Discussion about need for a program other than Campus GS

20 July 1999
Some are talking about a PIP (Policy Influencing Proposal) to National to legitimize the idea of an 18-30 group and move it away from being solely a campus-based group. I tend to agree because while I could have gotten a group together in Dallas without the campus bit, it would have been nigh impossible at UT Dallas (less than 5000 students). I am hoping that Purdue has an active group as I move there in the fall and if not I plan on creating one and making it self-sustaining.... but I KNOW that if campuses were less the focus it would be easier to start the groups... Senior Girl Scouts could just bridge into existing groups rather than the hunt for ones in the schools available. What I would really like to see it be similar to is Rovers (I know next to nothing about Link and a lot more about Rovers) in the Scouting movement.... Where there is an advisor... but totally run by the Rovers, a combination of high adventure/primitive skills with leadership within the movement and service to the community (similar to Senior GS I guess but at a higher level) and it has its own recognition system to encourage these activities.
---Amanda Owen

7 Aug 1997
I wish there were something like Link and Trefoil Guild in the US! My Senior troop is gradually becoming a kind of de facto Senior troop/Link group (the graduates hanging on)/Trefoil Guild (my locomotive engineer friends from work and some of the girls'/graduates' parents). It would be nice to have somewhere where we could be a group within Girl Scouts - several of us are certified leaders, but with our wacky schedules on the railroad it would be difficult-to-impossible to have a troop of our own, our schedules can do flipflops without any rhyme, reason, or warning. Our troop loves us, but what happens if/when all the girls graduate/leave? (In the US, you have to graduate at age 18 or end of high school)

There is such a thing as Campus Girl Scouts, but it's aimed very specifically at college students or members of a college community. It's also not very well supported by National. I was a CGS as a student for a while, and also in an at-large CGS group (my friends from Seniors were in college and I was working), but it was very hard to feel integrated into the GS community as a whole - we were neither fish nor fowl. We were considered Adults, and had no real framework or support. I was lucky in that my first CGS group we had stable enough schedules that we were able to run a Brownie troop (I was the #1 leader and the other CGS's rotated co-leader duties), so we were supported and recognized in at least our district.

Ideas, anyone?

--Aggie Donch (First Class 1973, Lifetime Member)


9 Aug 1997
With the Campus Girl Scouts, the emphasis seems far more on what CGS can do for the rest of the Organization than on the benefits of remaining/becoming a member as an adult. And I think we all agree we derive benefit from being part of Guiding as adults that is in addition to what we get from helping girls grow.

What sorts of activities do members of Link and Trefoil Guild do *as* Link/Trefoil Guild, in addition to helping with and supporting units? Our "engineer Scouts" have raised money for a VCR for a sick Brownie, helped out with leadership of the Senior troop, been drivers for trips, gone on a couple of Council-sponsored trips, sold cookies/nuts in season, put together activities for visiting troops and keep thinking about how to decorate the brand-new bare-walled women engineers' locker room in Grand Central. The "alumnae" have been pushing cookies/nuts, occasionally speaking at Council functions, and being "wheels" for trips too. And of course we feel generally pretty darn satisfied with ourselves just 'cause we *are* Girl Scouts...!

--Aggie Donch


Aug 1997
This can be a touchy issue - that we as adults derive benefit from our involvement in GG/GS, but is that to be the primary role of the organization?? This issue was debated extensively at the Canadian National Forum in April - the WAGGGS mission statement states that GG/GS is for "girls and young women" with "young women" to mean the teenage girls, not adults. And Guides Canada's mission statement is similar, with a somewhat recent clarification over the last year that "young women" does indeed refer to Senior Branch members (15-17 years old), not to young Guiders/Link members.

My approach to this, when promoting Link as an option for "young Guiders", is to emphasize how keeping these women involved in Guiding NOW will benefit the girls as a later date, as they may likely become leaders on a more regular basis in the future.

So, in Aggie's situation, where GSUSA doesn't have anything for "young leaders" not at university, or a Trefoil Guild-equivalent, I wonder whether there are any sort of "Local Association"-type groups within GSUSA (L.A. defn from POR = "A District, Division, or Area LA may be established with the approval of the Council concerned to provide support and resources for the Council. Membership consists of interested citizens...") You might be able to adapt something like this to fit your needs - you help out the SU/District but also do activities on your own.

Or else, you could all register as "members-at-large" and meet as a group, and keep reminding your Council/SU (even National) that you're there and that there IS a need for such a group.

--Jennifer Walker 


9 Nov 1997
Guides Canada at least offers a program specifically for younger adult members. GSUSA offers Campus Girl Scouts (of which there are fewer than 50 actual groups--out of 3000 or so colleges), which means forget being involved if you aren't a college student. There is a Gold Award Alliance, which each individual council is supposed to create and recruit people to join--usually extra dues for that membership. But no national group that makes it easy for the younger, usually single woman to stay involved in activities that would appeal to them. Oh, sure, they can participate in the local service unit, but that really isn't what would pique the interest of these younger people.
--Lela Arnes


16 Nov 1997
My unit is gradually evolving from a combined Cadette/Senior group, to all-Seniors, to more-graduates-than-girls. I find it somewhat stifling that because of our rules and regulations that we can't become an official group similar to Link/Trefoil Guild. Some of the other adults who want to take leader training, just to have the basics under their belt, (and didn't have the chance as Seniors to take it), can't because of the small number of girls in our unit. There's nothing around that would even be equivalent to a LA.

--Aggie Donch


01 December 1997
As far as I know, LINK does not exist in the US. The nearest there seems to be is Girl Scout Alumnae groups, which I don't think have an age limit. Like LINK, it is possible to be a member of an Alumnae group as well as a Troop Leader. The equivalent of Student Scout and Guide Clubs are Campus Girl Scout groups.

--Liz Watts


01 December 1997
LINK doesn't exist in the US - more than once I've put the question on local and national levels, and the response has best been described as "???"

I've never heard of Girl Scout Alumnae groups - this must be one of those West Coast things!

Although my troop is slowly evolving into a sort of mixed Senior/LINK/TG-type thing - our graduates seem to never leave (they stay registered with us as adults) and I have several friends from work who joined/rejoined GS through my troop - I think the last count was 3 girls and 15 adults!

--Aggie Donch


01 December 1997
This leads me to LINK. Why do we not have this in the USA. Could I propose that every person on this list - USA and other - write to GSUSA and let them know that this is something that we should have. I do have personal reasons for this - I will explain.

My 6th grade daughter - a true green - neck if I have ever seen one - plans on doing Cadettes - then Seniors - then bridging to adults and becoming a leader - if we all have done the best we could to get these girls motivated and true leaders - why should they have obstacles from the very organizations that made them that way?

Today - NOW - email GSUSA .Tell them that we need a program like LINK and the TREFOIL GUILD - today - for those future leaders - for the future leaders that have grown up and now want to belong.

--Kay Schechter 


Where Does CGS Fit In?

25 Jan 1998
After one of our meetings today, I really got to thinking about where Campus Scouts fits in the big picture. We know the general stuff as a lot of us have been a part of Girl Scouting all of our life. What the difficulty is, though, is where we fit in with the Council and the general scheme of things. I noticed that someone had a question with cookie sales because their Council didn't know how to work it with CGS, so my group isn't the only one that is sort of unsure of things. I've talked to a few people involved with CGS at other schools, and they agree that there is always some sort of conflict on the way things should work with their local council. CGS aren't really a troop per say, so what are we? We looked over the brief CGS stuff that is included on the GSUSA web page, but I don't think that really said much. We work with Council, the university, and do our own stuff, too, but I feel that we are almost without direction. I realize that CGS is a relatively new concept, but maybe some sort of handbook or something is needed so people don't feel as lost. Is this just my thinking or do other people feel this way, too? Perhaps my thinking is out of line here. I'd like to hear other people's thoughts.
--Lori Dietzel

25 Jan 1998
CGS is NOT new! I was a CGS over 20 years ago, and CGS is as poorly supported now as it was 20 years ago!

Many other Guiding/Girl Scouting countries have formal LINK (aimed at 18-30 year olds) and Trefoil Guild (30+ like me) organizations that are supported by more than a national webpage blurb or two and a "see ya later whan you figure it out" like CGS. Do they at least have that silly recruiting pamphlet they had out when I was in CGS? That was the only written thing we had. And LINK is for more than those-at-school, anyone in those ages can join.

I remember the "Gold Award Alliance" as another national bright idea that doesn't seem to be going anywhere real quick.

I think if we went to something like LINK/TG in the US, it would benefit everyone concerned - the organization, the LINK/TG members, and the girls. I think being both narrowly focused (only collegians may apply) and open-ended to the point of no one knows how to knit CGS into the mainstream of Scouting may be part of the problem.
--Aggie Donch

21 Feb 1998
Many of us have been saying how confusing and disorganized it has been starting a CGS group and then knowing what to do once it is started. I was wondering what people's opinions were (and perhaps GSUSA's attitude on the matter since I really don't know) about trying to get something together to help the CGS groups already in existance and those who would like to start. Perhaps a flyer/brochure about how to start CGS at your school and/or a booklet (sort of like a handbook) on different ways CGS meetings could be run, how to negotiate events between satisfying the college or university while also keeping the Council happy, how fundraising such as cookies works for CGS groups, and ideas of what CGS groups can do as far as their own activities and activities for the council (i.e., helping with troops, planning and designing events, etc...) I know that there was that one brochure out there plus it is on the web, but quite truthfully, when I read it, it turned me off to CGS more than got me interested in the organization. I think if I hadn't been in Girl Scouts for a long time already, I would've thought twice before wanting to join.

I don't know, for anyone who has been involved for more than a few years at the adult level (ie those on this listserv who are out of college or that age-level), do you know of anyone trying to do something like this in the past? It seems that everyone agrees that there is a problem here, so maybe we should try to do something about it.
--Lori Dietzel

23 April 1998
I'm writing a problem/solution paper attempting to convince GSUSA to give us a manual or some official direction. Through the course of writing this paper I've come across several problems with the current system of CGS. First off, we serve no special role. There's nothing that we're doing that couldn't be done by someone else. We also have no system of recognition or an activities that are unique to us (such as earning IPPs and badges or wider ops - however, I think we've slighty outgrown some of that). I think that GSUSA is missing out on a great resource in CGS groups. Most of us were involved in Girl Scouting at the younger levels, and learned valuable skills. We are mentors and I think we're a valuable bridge between being a girl scout and leading girl scouts. Anyway if anyone has any ideas on how to solve the problem or on what types of special services CGS groups could offer I'd love to hear your ideas!
--Alissa Ulrich, Vice President of Bradley CGS


Ideas for a CGS Handbook

5 May 1998
About the handbook.. so far everyone I've talked to thinks its a great idea, and our program director here said that we should approach it by talking to the appropriate person at GSUSA - she said she would find out who - and then also by being at the National Convention.. representing Campus Girl Scouts - not necessarily there to make a big to-do about it,..but to let people know that Campus GS do exist and that we are active, and would like more support. Also on this end... a few of us from our CGS group were talking, and one of our members plans to write GSUSA this summer about things related like this. We are going to really start in on the web page / handbook soon. I hope that there are enough people here supporting / helping with the effort to keep it going. Please send us anything you think might even be slightly relevant. Again some of the things we discussed about including before include: 1) how to start a CGS group on campus (recruiting, etc.), 2) various CGS constitutions / bylaws/ or whatever you call them (required by most universities), 3) What do CGS do - brief descriptions of activites your CGS has participated in / held, 4) What about cookie sales? - how your Council handles it in regards to your CGS, 5) Dealing with the fine line/red tape etc between uni / GS policies, 6) "typical" CGS meetings - how often, where (on / off campus?) - how it's run (Like traditional GS meeting or like a uni club meeting), 7) anything else of relevance.
--Laura Ree

22-23 February 1998

(Laura) I love the idea of a handbook... some sort of support. It could be more like a "Leader's Guide" than a handbook in the sense that the CGS group would really only need one... it could just be passed on from the officers of one year to the next.

(Kristen) This would be wonderful! I know that we're having a hard enough time keeping track of everything we've collected over the years--pictures, girl handbooks, paperwork, etc. I , for one, would be very glad to see something like this, it would help out both CGS groups and their councils figure out what to do with themselves...

(L) I have an idea to get one started (I imagine that if we have something in a draft form, GSUSA may have more interest in pursuing an actual finished version). What I would like to propose, we can get a site on geocities (free web space) and start it there, rather than having each of us take a different topic. Let's all contribute to it all that we can (because I know that each group probably does things differently). I will take over the job of collecting and posting everything if people will send it to me.

(K) -Again, this sounds great! If you want, for starters, you can copy our web page with the CGSUSA constitution on it to include on the site.

(L) -Some topics I would love to see in there:
1) Getting Started
2) Ideas for recruiting members
3) Meeting plans (and how often do you meet?)
4) Since the current CGS pamphlet sais that CGS help through the 3 C's (Campus, Community and Council), let's hear what ya'll do for the 3 C's
5) Cookie Sales
6) Uniforms (we plan to make our own tee shirts)
7) How do you run your meetings?
8) A CGS directory including names, email, webpages etc.
What do ya'll think? If you have other ideas of what should be in there, please let the list know. If GSUSA sees that we are serious about wanting more support for the CGS program maybe they will take it on.

(K)
2) (Ideas for recruiting members) - Our group has taken, in the last week, to dragging their suitemates with them to meetings :)
3) (Meeting plans and how often do you meet) -We've been meeting about every other week for as long as I've been here (I'm a junior now). This semester we're trying monthly meetings, with officers only meeting every other week.
4) (3 C's) - Campus & Community--we have done a campus clean-up on a Saturday morning. Since Geneseo is so small, Campus and Community almost, but not quite, overlap. Council--almost everything we do involves our council. Our lock-in is for Senior GS in our council, ditto for Brownies for Try-It day.
7) (How do you run your meetings?) -Mostly like any other campus organization--reserve a room in the student union, officers usually meet about half an hour before the rest of the group. Meeting is spent informing everyone else of any/all progress in the planning of upcoming events. Most of us have so much else going on, we've never really considered for very long having any kind of "official Girl Scout" opening or closing ceremony.

--Kristen Tozer and Laura Ree


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